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Post  Big_Pete on Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:52 pm

Here is my current Mock Draft thinking

Trade #19 to New England for #28, #60

Trade Clint Sintim to Arizona, Houston or New England for 69, 73, 74


28. TE Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame

52. RB Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech

60. C Stefan Wisniewski, Penn State

69. SLB Chris Carter, Fresno State

83. CB Brandon Burton, Utah

117. WLB Colin McCarthy, Miami

185. S Eric Hagg, Nebraska

198*. CB Cortez Allen, Citadel

202*. DE Karl Klug, Iowa

222. C Tim Barnes, Missouri

* Compensation Picks
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Re: mock draft 29 march

Post  Pizan on Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:24 am

You trade sintim to get another Sintim in Carter who is a DE that will need to be converted to LB. Much like Kiwi and Sintim. I'm not diggin that. I would like a true LB, with LBer instincts, I think we all would for a change.

I like your first 3 picks and I like the trade down. I like McCarthy as a MLB.


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Post  Pizan on Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:14 am

I have two quick ones. First one I'll just twist yours a little bit.

If we trade back I would do this.

28. Stephen Paea DT
52. Stefan Wisniewski C
60. Virgil Green TE
83. Mark Herzlich LB
114. Shiloh Keo S
185. Alex Green RB
198. Richard Sherman CB
202.
222.

If we stay put, I'd do this.

19. Mike Pouncey OC/OG
52. Drake Nevis DT
83. Mark Herzlich OLB
114. Shiloh Keo S
185. Alex Green RB
198. Richard Sherman CB
202.
222.

Not sure yet on the last two picks.
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Post  Big_Pete on Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:50 am

Pizan wrote:You trade sintim to get another Sintim in Carter who is a DE that will need to be converted to LB. Much like Kiwi and Sintim. I'm not diggin that. I would like a true LB, with LBer instincts, I think we all would for a change.

I like your first 3 picks and I like the trade down. I like McCarthy as a MLB.


fair enough, and I do like Paea as an option as well.

I am not sure Pouncey will be there at 19

Fair call on Carter, there are other decent options as well such as Quan Sturdivant, or slightly later Mason Foster and KJ Wright.

I also want to see two FA LBs such as McIntosh and Ruud
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Post  56 Crazed Dogs on Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:19 pm

I like Rudolph. I think he might be somewhat of a "Kevin Boss clone"
Rudolph may have a little bit better athleticism than Boss but I don't like the fact that Rudolph is always injured.
I would feel more at ease if the Giants could pick him up in the second round instead.

C, Stefan W. I could live with that pick. The center position does need to be addressed this draft season.

Instead of drafting two offensive centers though, I think Mitch Petrus will get a shot at center or guard at some point.

Linebacker needs more emphasis imo.
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Post  Big_Pete on Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:33 pm

56 Crazed Dogs wrote:I like Rudolph. I think he might be somewhat of a "Kevin Boss clone"
Rudolph may have a little bit better athleticism than Boss but I don't like the fact that Rudolph is always injured.
I would feel more at ease if the Giants could pick him up in the second round instead.

C, Stefan W. I could live with that pick. The center position does need to be addressed this draft season.

Instead of drafting two offensive centers though, I think Mitch Petrus will get a shot at center or guard at some point.

Linebacker needs more emphasis imo.

Rudolph is a better comparison to guys like Jason Witten and Heath Miller imho; he is a legit all round TE. I also think this helps Boss (whom I think is an excellent #2 TE).
I think Rudolph checks out medically and if so is a potential steal (not unlike Webster and Tuck who slipped due to injury). Gronkowski had much more serious injury issues last year and did ok.
I also think that Rudolph can be that reliable third down guy (like Steve Smith) giving extra insurance against his recovery.

as far as two centers; one (Wisniewski) is a future starter; Barnes is a developmental guy, but also adds insurance for O'Hara, Seubert and Koets being heathy and allows options should one of the above not be back. Lets not forget 80% of our starting Oline is 30+, grooming for the future never hurts.

Also I don't think Petrus is seriously in the center mix; otherwise considering we have O'Hara, Seubert and Koets, Center would not be a need.
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Post  Pizan on Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:24 pm

Rudolph reminds me a lot of Boss/Heap. I like Virgil Green better considering where they'll be drafted. Overall this is a very weak TE class. I like Luke Stocker as well. I still think Beckum could be a threat for us and potential starter if used right.

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Post  56 Crazed Dogs on Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:18 pm

Pizan wrote:Rudolph reminds me a lot of Boss/Heap. I like Virgil Green better considering where they'll be drafted. Overall this is a very weak TE class. I like Luke Stocker as well. I still think Beckum could be a threat for us and potential starter if used right.

I have a feeling that Beckum is going to end up much like Visanthe Shiancoe did for the Giants. We'll groom him and then he'll find a bigger role for another team.

I still like Bear Pascoe as a tight end prospect for the Giants. He may not be the long term answer but he's got to be in the mix for his versatility alone.

I think you're right though Vin, We have some higher priorities than TE in the first round.
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Post  Big_Pete on Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:29 pm

Pizan wrote:Rudolph reminds me a lot of Boss/Heap. I like Virgil Green better considering where they'll be drafted. Overall this is a very weak TE class. I like Luke Stocker as well. I still think Beckum could be a threat for us and potential starter if used right.


I also like Luke Stocker

I am not sure on Virgil Green

Two other players I like at around 28 are DT Stephen Paea and CB Aaron Williams

I suspect we may see less of the traditional FB role for the Giants with Pascoe Beckum being used more in H-Back roles
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Post  Big_Pete on Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:48 pm

56 Crazed Dogs wrote:
I think you're right though Vin, We have some higher priorities than TE in the first round.

I wouldn't rule it out, particularly if we trade back.

The giants are likely to pick the highest rated player on the board at positions they are looking to upgrade. It also depends on how the Giants scouts feel about Rudolph (and other players).

Similarly if Mark Ingram is there at #19 (which is definately possible), I wouldn't be surprised if we drafted him, despite it not being an urgent need.
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