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Osi trade idea

Post  Big_Pete on Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:50 pm

I think Osi is going to cause problems once the lock out is over, he wants (and probably deserves) his big pay day which he isn't going to get here. With that in mind I have been looking at possible player for player trade options.

Here is an Osi trade idea that I am floating out there

DE Osi Umenyiora for LB Aaron Curry straight up

Curry has been a decent LB for their 4-3, but Pete Carroll has had to defend his pass rushing ability, some are calling him a bust. But he is big, physical, fast and has good coverage skills.

Curry does have a high cap number as a former #4 draft pick (around $13.2 mil).
salaries (2011: $5,076,250 (+ $5 million roster bonus), 2012: $5,757,500, 2013: $5,938,750, 2014: $8.12 million, 2015: Free Agent)

I think Curry could be available for the right deal. It would allow them to invest in other key areas.

The Giants would also save $2mil from Osi's contract.
We may need to rework the deal (perhaps an extension turning some of the salary/bonus into a signing bonus), but as it stands we would have a 4 year, $30mil deal ($22m through the first 3 years)

For the Seahawks, a stud pass rusher like Osi would be ideal and could be enough to ensure they can win the NFC West, particularly as they can get a decent OLB in free agency.

The Giants are built to win now, we need to get something for Osi. Adding a guy like Curry would be exactly what we need to turn around our LBs. Like it or not we can replace Osi.

any thoughts?
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Post  Pizan on Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:47 am

Its definitely a risky move. I like Curry as a person and still believe he can develop into a probowl LB but I don't have faith that we can develop him any better than the Seahawks have. Quite frankly we suck at it.
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Post  Big_Pete on Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:38 am

Pizan wrote:Its definitely a risky move. I like Curry as a person and still believe he can develop into a probowl LB but I don't have faith that we can develop him any better than the Seahawks have. Quite frankly we suck at it.

I was floating an idea and if Osi is traded what we possibilities there are for player trades at our need positions.

We have certainly sucked at developing LBs, but Curry for us wouldn't necessarily have to play SLB. How about him as a MLB or even WLB?
Also you could easily argue that Curry would be the most talented/ athletically gifted LB we have had to develop in a very long time.

He is physical, he has good instincts, great speed and good coverage. It seems like everything we want in a Mike to me. The only area where he is weak is as a pass rusher, and we have our Dline for that.
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Post  Big_Pete on Wed Jul 06, 2011 6:44 pm

The more I think of it, the more I like this idea.

Either we pay Osi (which I am not sure we will given our succession planning at DE) or we trade him, and we aren't likely to get our perceived value for Osi in draft picks.

Sure a guy like Curry is a risk, but is worth rolling the dice in my opinion.

Just add a stud LB in the draft and we are pretty well set.
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Post  Big_Pete on Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:19 pm

I found this article about Curry, it is a few weeks old, but I only just found it.




Pressure Point: Can Curry justify spot?


By Matt Williamson
Scouts Inc.

With the fourth overall pick in the 2009 draft, the Seahawks selected Aaron Curry. If a team uses such a high draft pick on a linebacker, the return has to be much greater than what Curry has provided thus far. Seattle needs Curry to be great.

Curry is immensely talented. He has the size, strength, speed and explosiveness to excel at any linebacker position in any scheme. But he is a strongside linebacker in Seattle's system -- not a featured role. Strongside linebackers are about as easy to find as any position on the field, and they often are not highlighted like outside LBs in a 3-4, weakside LBs in the 4-3 or interior second-level defenders. So, Curry's situation and Seattle's scheme certainly has had something to do with his somewhat disappointing production. The Seahawks bear some blame for not allowing him to find his niche.

Curry's ability approaches that of Patrick Willis, but he obviously has not approached Willis' accomplishments. Curry is only 25, though. Coming out of Wake Forest, he was considered an extremely safe prospect who could enter the league and have an immediate impact. But his rookie season was very rocky. He's played in 30 of 32 possible regular-season games, but he just hasn't been the true impact player that his abilities would indicate.

Even though he does generally line up on the strong side, you would think that Curry could flourish as a pass-rusher from that spot or even with his hand on the ground on throwing downs. He certainly has the physical makeup to control that portion of the field against the run. And Curry has the fluid hips, agility and speed that you look for to cover a tight end or running back in man coverage or be a forceful player as a zone defender. But Curry has just 134 tackles, 5.5 sacks and has not recovered a fumble or had an interception over that stretch.

Curry's recognition skills are only average at this point, but I will concede that they are improving, especially as a run defender. He can struggle to get off blocks and he isn't an especially sure tackler in the open field, but he has improved noticeably against the run. All in all, after two seasons, I am fine with his abilities in the run game, although I would like to see him create more big plays and show up more as a pursuit player.

But like many young linebackers, he isn't a natural in the pass game at this level. That isn't to say that he can't do it or never will never be an effective player in this phase. But Seattle needs much more from Curry. As a pass-rusher, he needs to develop more of an arsenal. The Seahawks did use him in a very unorthodox way at times as an interior pass-rusher with his hand on the ground. That experiment failed.

He also takes too many penalties and will miss assignments. Curry needs to improve his mental approach to the game. He doesn't mirror routes especially well when playing man coverage. In zone, he too often looks lost and unaware. Curry's overall consistency also could be improved. Curry does log a lot of snaps for Seattle, but if he remains a liability in the passing game, that count could dwindle.

These things might improve in his third season, but thus far, it is tough to argue that Curry has been worth his draft slot. If Curry were a second-round pick or even a late first-rounder, there wouldn't be any reason to be down on him. But only three players went ahead of Curry in 2009 and the investment in him is great.



I can't believe they played Curry with his hand on the ground, much like we have used Tuck, Kiwi and JPP in our 4 aces.

I think the poor quality of the Seahawks line is limiting Curry somewhat
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