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How the 2009 Giants Roster is shaping up
Here is my take on how the likely Giants 2009 roster is shaping up
(pending additions in blue, RFA signings in Red); everyone else is under contract
QB (3): Eli Manning, David Carr, Andre Woodson
WR (6): Veteran (via trade)/Rookie, Domenik Hixon, Steve Smith, Mario Manningham, Rookie, Sinorice Moss/David Tyree/Derek Hagan
TE (3): Kevin Boss, Darcy Johnson, Rookie/Michael Matthews
RB (4): Brandon Jacobs, Ahmad Bradshaw, Danny Ware, Rookie
FB (1): Madison Hedgecock
OT (3): David Diehl, Kareem McKenzie, Guy Whimper/Rookie
OG (3): Chris Snee, Rich Seubert, Kevin Boothe/Adam Koets
OC (2): Shaun O'Hara, Rookie
DE (4): Osi Umenyiora, Justin Tuck, Matthias Kiwanuka, Robert Henderson/Dave Tollefsen
DT (5): Fred Robbins, Chris Canty, Rocky Bernard, Barry Cofield, Jay Alford
OLB (4): Michael Boley, Brian Kehl, Danny Clark/Chase Blackburn/Gerris Wilkinson, Zak De Ossie
MLB (3): Antonio Pierce, Jonathan Goff, Rookie
CB (6): Corey Webster, Aaron Ross, Terrell Thomas, Kevin Dockery, Rookie, Rookie
SS (2): Kenny Phillips, Rookie
FS (2): Michael Johnson, Rookie
K (1): Lawrence Tynes
P (1): Jeff Feagles
* Clark, Wikinson, Blackburn are likely fighting for perhaps 1 roster spot; DeOssie will almost certainly at least get a roster spot based on special teams ability
Note: I expect Fred Robbins will be released soon.
(pending additions in blue, RFA signings in Red); everyone else is under contract
QB (3): Eli Manning, David Carr, Andre Woodson
WR (6): Veteran (via trade)/Rookie, Domenik Hixon, Steve Smith, Mario Manningham, Rookie, Sinorice Moss/David Tyree/Derek Hagan
TE (3): Kevin Boss, Darcy Johnson, Rookie/Michael Matthews
RB (4): Brandon Jacobs, Ahmad Bradshaw, Danny Ware, Rookie
FB (1): Madison Hedgecock
OT (3): David Diehl, Kareem McKenzie, Guy Whimper/Rookie
OG (3): Chris Snee, Rich Seubert, Kevin Boothe/Adam Koets
OC (2): Shaun O'Hara, Rookie
DE (4): Osi Umenyiora, Justin Tuck, Matthias Kiwanuka, Robert Henderson/Dave Tollefsen
DT (5): Fred Robbins, Chris Canty, Rocky Bernard, Barry Cofield, Jay Alford
OLB (4): Michael Boley, Brian Kehl, Danny Clark/Chase Blackburn/Gerris Wilkinson, Zak De Ossie
MLB (3): Antonio Pierce, Jonathan Goff, Rookie
CB (6): Corey Webster, Aaron Ross, Terrell Thomas, Kevin Dockery, Rookie, Rookie
SS (2): Kenny Phillips, Rookie
FS (2): Michael Johnson, Rookie
K (1): Lawrence Tynes
P (1): Jeff Feagles
* Clark, Wikinson, Blackburn are likely fighting for perhaps 1 roster spot; DeOssie will almost certainly at least get a roster spot based on special teams ability
Note: I expect Fred Robbins will be released soon.
Last edited by Big_Pete on Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:56 pm; edited 3 times in total
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Re: How the 2009 Giants Roster is shaping up
I think we trade for a WR like Braylon Edwards; but if not out #1 is almost certainly a WR
after that we still have 8 picks (7 if we trade for Edwards) plus compensation picks for Gibril Wilson, Kawika Mithcell and Reggie Torbor
Other than #1 WR we have 10 rookie needs (either drafted or undrafted free agent)
So looking at that, after our #1 pick...
we may need 1 WR
We will need 1 RB (likely late)
We will need 1 TE (possibly late)
We may need 1 OT
We will need 1 OC to groom as O'Hara's replacement
We will need 1 LB to groom as Pierce's replacement
We will need 4 DBs (either 1 CB and 3 S or 2 CB and 2 S)
The good news is there is excellent depth of Talent at all these positions this year.
Going by recent years, Dockery will not be back after 2009, particularly as Thomas seems to have assumed the primary Nickleback role. Hence why I went with 2 CB and 2 S
after that we still have 8 picks (7 if we trade for Edwards) plus compensation picks for Gibril Wilson, Kawika Mithcell and Reggie Torbor
Other than #1 WR we have 10 rookie needs (either drafted or undrafted free agent)
So looking at that, after our #1 pick...
we may need 1 WR
We will need 1 RB (likely late)
We will need 1 TE (possibly late)
We may need 1 OT
We will need 1 OC to groom as O'Hara's replacement
We will need 1 LB to groom as Pierce's replacement
We will need 4 DBs (either 1 CB and 3 S or 2 CB and 2 S)
The good news is there is excellent depth of Talent at all these positions this year.
Going by recent years, Dockery will not be back after 2009, particularly as Thomas seems to have assumed the primary Nickleback role. Hence why I went with 2 CB and 2 S
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Re: How the 2009 Giants Roster is shaping up
I expect we will trade for a WR, very likely Braylon Edwards; but at least for now the door is open for Burress' return. At the moment he is a Giant and there is a reasonable expectation that he could be back (assuming he majorly adjusts to the team conditions, which I think he will). But I won'r speculate on the trade until it is in the books.
I expect we will get compensation picks in the 3rd, 5th and 6th rounds for Gibril Wilson, Kawika Mitchell and Reggie Torbor
with that in mind, my curret estimatation on the rest of the draft is something like:
29: MLB Brian Cushing, USC, 6'03, 243lbs, 4.74, 30 reps
45: S William Moore, Missouri, 6'00", 221lbs, 4.53lbs, 16 rep
60: OC Eric Wood, Louisville, 6'04", 310lbs, 5.23, 30 reps
91: DE Lawrence Sidbury Jr, Richmond, 6'02", 266lbs, 4.64, 28 reps
(best player pick and adds genuine speed and athleticism to the DE corps ~similar to Osi?)
Comp: SS Chip Vaughn, Wake Forrest, 6'01", 221lbs, 4.51, 21 reps
(best player pick and adds a big fast tackling machine which will dramatically help safety depth and special teams)
124: WLB Gerald McGrath, Southern Mississipi, 6'02", 231 lbs, 4.61, 19 reps
(best player pick and adds more speed and athleticism to the LB corps - similar to Boley?)
143: CB Brandon Underwood, Cincinnati, 6'01", 198lbs, 4.53, 16 reps
156: S Courtney Greene, Rutgers, 6'00", 212lbs, 4.54, 21 reps
Comp: CB Morgan Trent, Michigan, 6'01", 193 lbs, 4.54, 23 reps
187: RB Javarris Williams, Tennessee St, 5'10", 219lbs, 4.52, 25 reps
Comp: TE Richard Quinn, North Carolina, 6'04", 264lbs, 4.85, 24 reps
221: WR Jarrett Dillard, Rice, 5'10", 191lbs, 4.53, 13 reps
I expect we will get compensation picks in the 3rd, 5th and 6th rounds for Gibril Wilson, Kawika Mitchell and Reggie Torbor
with that in mind, my curret estimatation on the rest of the draft is something like:
29: MLB Brian Cushing, USC, 6'03, 243lbs, 4.74, 30 reps
45: S William Moore, Missouri, 6'00", 221lbs, 4.53lbs, 16 rep
60: OC Eric Wood, Louisville, 6'04", 310lbs, 5.23, 30 reps
91: DE Lawrence Sidbury Jr, Richmond, 6'02", 266lbs, 4.64, 28 reps
(best player pick and adds genuine speed and athleticism to the DE corps ~similar to Osi?)
Comp: SS Chip Vaughn, Wake Forrest, 6'01", 221lbs, 4.51, 21 reps
(best player pick and adds a big fast tackling machine which will dramatically help safety depth and special teams)
124: WLB Gerald McGrath, Southern Mississipi, 6'02", 231 lbs, 4.61, 19 reps
(best player pick and adds more speed and athleticism to the LB corps - similar to Boley?)
143: CB Brandon Underwood, Cincinnati, 6'01", 198lbs, 4.53, 16 reps
156: S Courtney Greene, Rutgers, 6'00", 212lbs, 4.54, 21 reps
Comp: CB Morgan Trent, Michigan, 6'01", 193 lbs, 4.54, 23 reps
187: RB Javarris Williams, Tennessee St, 5'10", 219lbs, 4.52, 25 reps
Comp: TE Richard Quinn, North Carolina, 6'04", 264lbs, 4.85, 24 reps
221: WR Jarrett Dillard, Rice, 5'10", 191lbs, 4.53, 13 reps
Last edited by Big_Pete on Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:43 am; edited 15 times in total
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Re: How the 2009 Giants Roster is shaping up
some notes on the draft from Pat Kirwan...
2. Free-agency signings reflect draft-class weaknesses
Right after NFL executives and coaches returned from an intense week at the combine in Indianapolis, the free-agency period started. Early free-agent signings might point to the positions that teams believe are lacking in the 2009 draft class.
The contracts signed by Scott, Jonathan Vilma, Takeo Spikes, Michael Boley and even Keith Brooking tells me the linebacker talent pool in the draft is suspect. The guard population in the draft also is a concern to NFL teams as Chris Kemoeatu, Brandon Moore and Derrick Dockery all cashed in right away in free agency.
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Re: How the 2009 Giants Roster is shaping up
So I guess, assuming Burress is back (at least for now), with my mock draft, the Giants would look something like:
QB (3): Eli Manning, David Carr, Andre Woodson
WR (6): Plaxico Burress, Domenik Hixon, Steve Smith, Mario Manningham, Sinorice Moss, Jarrett Dillard/David Tyree/Derek Hagan
TE (3): Kevin Boss, Darcy Johnson, Richard Quinn/Michael Matthews
RB (4): Brandon Jacobs, Ahmad Bradshaw, Danny Ware, Javarris Williams
FB (1): Madison Hedgecock
OT (3): David Diehl, Kareem McKenzie, Guy Whimper
OG (3): Chris Snee, Rich Seubert, Kevin Boothe/Adam Koets
OC (2): Shaun O'Hara, Eric Wood
DE (4): Osi Umenyiora, Justin Tuck, Matthias Kiwanuka, Lawrence Sidbury Jr/Robert Henderson/Dave Tollefsen
DT (5): Fred Robbins, Chris Canty, Rocky Bernard, Barry Cofield, Jay Alford
SLB (3): Brian Kehl, Danny Clark/Chase Blackburn/Gerris Wilkinson/Jonathan Goff, Zak De Ossie
MLB (2): Antonio Pierce, Brian Cushing
WLB (2) Michael Boley, Gerald McGrath
CB (5): Corey Webster, Aaron Ross, Terrell Thomas, Brandon Underwood, Kevin Dockery/Morgan Trent
SS (2): Kenny Phillips, Chip Vaughn
FS (2): Michael Johnson, William Moore, Courtney Greene
K (1): Lawrence Tynes
P (1): Jeff Feagles
QB (3): Eli Manning, David Carr, Andre Woodson
WR (6): Plaxico Burress, Domenik Hixon, Steve Smith, Mario Manningham, Sinorice Moss, Jarrett Dillard/David Tyree/Derek Hagan
TE (3): Kevin Boss, Darcy Johnson, Richard Quinn/Michael Matthews
RB (4): Brandon Jacobs, Ahmad Bradshaw, Danny Ware, Javarris Williams
FB (1): Madison Hedgecock
OT (3): David Diehl, Kareem McKenzie, Guy Whimper
OG (3): Chris Snee, Rich Seubert, Kevin Boothe/Adam Koets
OC (2): Shaun O'Hara, Eric Wood
DE (4): Osi Umenyiora, Justin Tuck, Matthias Kiwanuka, Lawrence Sidbury Jr/Robert Henderson/Dave Tollefsen
DT (5): Fred Robbins, Chris Canty, Rocky Bernard, Barry Cofield, Jay Alford
SLB (3): Brian Kehl, Danny Clark/Chase Blackburn/Gerris Wilkinson/Jonathan Goff, Zak De Ossie
MLB (2): Antonio Pierce, Brian Cushing
WLB (2) Michael Boley, Gerald McGrath
CB (5): Corey Webster, Aaron Ross, Terrell Thomas, Brandon Underwood, Kevin Dockery/Morgan Trent
SS (2): Kenny Phillips, Chip Vaughn
FS (2): Michael Johnson, William Moore, Courtney Greene
K (1): Lawrence Tynes
P (1): Jeff Feagles
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