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Post  Big_Pete Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:43 pm

With the events this week; it is probably a good time to look at our offensive line this season

what are your thoughts on the Giants Offensive Line this season?

here is a reasonable assessment of our offensive line from bigblueintereactive.com


Offensive Tackles:

Kareem McKenzie is one of the best right tackles in football. McKenzie joined the Giants as an unrestricted free agent from the Jets in 2005. He was originally drafted by the Jets in the 3rd round of the 2001 NFL Draft. McKenzie is a huge, strong lineman with a very large wingspan. As a run blocker, McKenzie has good strength and power to maul defenders at the point-of-attack. He has decent feet and his long arms help him in pass protection, though he does have problems with outside speed and quickness at times.

David Diehl played well in his first season at left tackle despite playing most of the year with torn ligaments in one of his thumbs. Diehl has not missed a game since he was drafted in 2003 and has started in every game since that time (86 straight starts including six playoff games). In those five seasons, he has played right guard, right tackle, left guard, and left tackle. Diehl is a big, smart, aggressive lineman with long arms and a good athlete for his size. He’s not really a true mauler, but he has become a technically-sound run and pass blocker. He is also adept at pulling.

Guy Whimper was selected in the fourth round of the 2006 NFL Draft by the Giants. Whimper is an athletic player who was used at linebacker, defensive end, and tight end in college. He was moved to right tackle his senior year, but he also started one game at left tackle. Whimper has good size and is a very good athlete with quick feet. Whimper is still learning to play the position, but has improved each preseason. He saw some limited playing time in the playoff game against the Buccaneers and performed well.

Adam Koets was drafted by the Giants in the 6th round of the 2007 NFL Draft. Koets is more experienced than most young linemen as he started 37 games at left tackle at Oregon State. Koets is a better pass blocker than run blocker. He is a good athlete with decent feet and natural knee bend. Koets needs to get bigger and stronger and play a more physical game in order to succeed at the next level. He struggled some in the 2007 preseason.

Na’Shan Goddard was signed by the Giants as an undrafted rookie free agent after the 2006 NFL Draft. He made the team, but was inactive for the first seven games of the season. He was then waived, and claimed off of waivers by the Jets. The Jets waived him early September 2007 and the Giants quickly signed him to their Practice Squad. Goddard is big, physical lineman who played both tackle spots in the 2006 preseason for the Giants and performed fairly well.

Dylan Thiry was signed as an undrafted rookie free agent after the 2008 NFL Draft. He was a three-year started at left tackle for Northwestern, but most likely projects to right tackle in the pros. Thiry has very good height and growth potential. Lacks ideal athleticism.

Offensive Guards:

Chris Snee has developed into one of the NFL’s best guards. He is a strong, physical run blocker who gets movement at the point-of-attack. Snee is also athletic enough to pull and engage linebackers at the second level. He is a very solid pass protector who anchors well and who has improved his pass protection against quick defensive linemen. Snee is very competitive and plays with an attitude.

Rich Seubert was developing into one of the better guards in the NFL until his leg was shattered in October 2003 against the Eagles. The leg fractures were career-threatening, but Seubert has fought a long and difficult road back. In 2007, he once again became the full-time starter at left guard. Seubert is a fireplug who plays the game with a lot of intensity and toughness. He is a good run blocker at the point-of-attack, and he is mobile enough to pull and get out on linebackers. Quickness sometimes gives him trouble in pass protection, but he is generally solid in that department as well.

Kevin Boothe was claimed off of waivers by the Giants from the Oakland Raiders in September 2007. Boothe was originally drafted in the 6th round of the 2006 NFL Draft by the Raiders and started 14 games for Oakland at right guard as a rookie. In college at Cornell, Boothe played at right guard and both tackle spots. Boothe is a big, powerful player who can create movement at the point-of-attack. He is smart, tough, and plays with an attitude. He has long arms, but Boothe lacks the athletic ability to play left tackle and perhaps right tackle at the NFL level. He struggles with speed and quickness in pass protection. Still raw, Boothe needs to improve his overall technique and footwork.

Brandon Torrey was signed to the Practice Squad in January 2008. Torrey was originally signed by the Pittsburgh Steelers to a futures contract in February 2006. The Steelers waived him before the season started but signed him to their Practice Squad. Torrey was signed by the Steelers again in January 2007, but waived before the season started. The Cardinals signed him to their Practice Squad in November.

Andrew Bain was signed as an undrafted rookie free agent after the 2008 NFL Draft. Bain started all 13 games as a junior for the University of Miami but was only a part-time starter his senior season. He has very good size, but lacks athleticism and agility. He does not get a lot of movement in his run blocks. Bain struggles blocking in space at times. Plays hard. Could project to center.

Offensive Centers:

Shaun O’Hara has held down the fort at center since coming to the Giants in 2004 as a free agent from the Browns. While center is his most natural position, O’Hara is a versatile lineman who has experience at both guard positions. He can also long snap. Smart and a team leader, O’Hara is a decent athlete who can block at the second level and pull. He is not a powerful run blocker, but he plays with good technique and intensity. O’Hara is a good pass blocker who sometimes has problems with the bull rush.

Grey Ruegamer is a versatile lineman who has played center, guard, and even some tight end for the Giants. He was originally drafted by the Dolphins in the 3rd round of the 1999 NFL Draft, but did not play that season for Miami. Ruegamer signed with the Patriots in 2000 and started three games in three years with New England. In 2003, he signed with the Packers, starting 11 games in 2004 and two games in 2005. Ruegamer signed with the Giants in 2006. He played in all 16 regular season games and started at left guard in the regular-season finale. In 2007, Ruegamer filled in at center for the injured Shaun O’Hara in the regular season finale and started the playoff game against the Buccaneers. Ruegamer is a solid, dependable back-up-type who won’t embarrass you when called upon to start. He is smart and aggressive. Ruegamer is a solid technician - he is more of a position blocker than mauler. Ruegamer lacks quickness and range and thus can struggle when called upon to pull or block at the second level.

Glenn "Digger" Bujnoch was signed as an undrafted rookie free agent after the 2008 NFL Draft. Bujnoch has experience at both tackle spots at the University of Cincinnati. He lacks the ideal height and arm length to play tackle in the pros. He is a good athlete. Bujnoch obviously needs to get bigger and stronger. He struggles with power. Bujnoch is more of a finesse player than mauler. He is a better pass blocker than run blocker. Quick and understands angles. Good intangibles – smart and hardworking.

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Post  56 Crazed Dogs Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:06 pm

I think anytime you can keep an above average offensive line together for this long it's a good thing.
This group should only get better as time goes on.

We have good versatility players too. Guys like Rich Seubert and Grey Ruegamer are great to have. They can play either guard spot and play center as well.

David Diehl I just can't say enough about.

We have some real tough guys on this team that seem to get along great with each other.

The days of overpaying for injury proned, underachieving players such as Luke Petitgout are finally over.
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Post  Big_Pete Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:12 pm

What is really impressive is that our entire starting Oline is locked up for the next five seasons.

Through 2012: Kareem McKenzie, Shaun O'Hara

Through 2013: David Diehl, Rich Serubert

Through 2014: Chris Snee
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Post  Pizan Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:13 pm

The continuity these guys have is just awesome. I would actually put this line amongst the best in the NFL.
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