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Third pick for NYG
CB Jayron Hosely Virginia Tech.
Im not thrilled. I can see the attraction with his speed and athleticism, but he is likely going to be limited to a nickle back. I would rather have gone with Lewis or Turbin. I guess he helps us match up against the smaller shifter WRs.
I actually think Antwan Moulden will be our nickleback with Hosley learning from him.
I guess the other option is that we use Terrell Thomas in that Deon Grant role (like we planned last year). In fact that wouldn't be surprising.
Im not thrilled. I can see the attraction with his speed and athleticism, but he is likely going to be limited to a nickle back. I would rather have gone with Lewis or Turbin. I guess he helps us match up against the smaller shifter WRs.
I actually think Antwan Moulden will be our nickleback with Hosley learning from him.
I guess the other option is that we use Terrell Thomas in that Deon Grant role (like we planned last year). In fact that wouldn't be surprising.
Last edited by Big_Pete on Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:17 pm; edited 1 time in total
Big_Pete- Giants Legend
Re: Third pick for NYG
I hope Turbin or Lewis are available for us in the 4th.
btw I can't believe Lamar Miller is still available
btw I can't believe Lamar Miller is still available
Big_Pete- Giants Legend
Re: Third pick for NYG
I would have much preferred Brandon Boykin. but I guess he return skills was a bg factor
Big_Pete- Giants Legend
Re: Third pick for NYG
I knew a nickle corner to cover the slot was high on our list because the slot gave us trouble all year last season thats why I mentioned Boykins alot. When I compared the tape of the two players I thought both were equal. The reason I never mentioned Hosley was 1) the failed drug test. I thought that would eliminate him right away and 2) When I watched Hosley's interviews he has a street attitude not really a Coughlin type of guy.
What separated him from Boykins wasn't his punt return skills it was Hosley's 78" wingspan. Thats very good for a 5'10" player. A few other reasons, He's a ballhawk at corner, Hosley had 9 ints as a SOPHOMORE Including one from Andrew Luck. He breaks on the ball incredibly fast and uses his long arms to knock balls away from the receiver.
His major negatives that I noticed, he can't tackle for shit. And bigger receivers seem to bully him through their routes. He's a scrapper but he has to add weight.
I liked that he talks high about the tradition of the V-Tech corners. He mentions Brandon Flowers, Macho Harris, and DeAngelo Hall a lot.
You gotta be pleased with the pick though. This was 2nd round talent we got at the end of the 3rd. BPA combined with a position of need. A common theme for this draft. We are doing a VERY good job. Kudos to Reese, Ross, Coughlin and crew. Now get me Ronnel Lewis and Brett Roy on Defense and I won't bitch about another draft pick for the rest of my life.
What separated him from Boykins wasn't his punt return skills it was Hosley's 78" wingspan. Thats very good for a 5'10" player. A few other reasons, He's a ballhawk at corner, Hosley had 9 ints as a SOPHOMORE Including one from Andrew Luck. He breaks on the ball incredibly fast and uses his long arms to knock balls away from the receiver.
His major negatives that I noticed, he can't tackle for shit. And bigger receivers seem to bully him through their routes. He's a scrapper but he has to add weight.
I liked that he talks high about the tradition of the V-Tech corners. He mentions Brandon Flowers, Macho Harris, and DeAngelo Hall a lot.
You gotta be pleased with the pick though. This was 2nd round talent we got at the end of the 3rd. BPA combined with a position of need. A common theme for this draft. We are doing a VERY good job. Kudos to Reese, Ross, Coughlin and crew. Now get me Ronnel Lewis and Brett Roy on Defense and I won't bitch about another draft pick for the rest of my life.
Last edited by Pizan on Sat Apr 28, 2012 2:48 pm; edited 1 time in total
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Re: Third pick for NYG
I am ok with the value, I just prefer DBs who can tackle.
Hosley is a real ballhawk though, so that should help.
I think Hosley will do ok in our system, he is a playmaker.
Hosley is a real ballhawk though, so that should help.
I think Hosley will do ok in our system, he is a playmaker.
Big_Pete- Giants Legend
Re: Third pick for NYG
Not a fan of this pick based on game against Clemson.
-He uses his hands too much on receivers.
-Not very good in run support.
-Dances a bit too much with punt returns.
Oh well. we got pretty good corners anyways.
-He uses his hands too much on receivers.
-Not very good in run support.
-Dances a bit too much with punt returns.
Oh well. we got pretty good corners anyways.
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By Mike Garafolo/The Star-Ledger
Jerry Reese described Jayron Hosley as "athletically arrogant," a compliment to the way he plays aggressively and confidently on the field.
Yeah, well, that swagger extends off the field as well.
"Truthfully, I felt like the college game was getting a little too easy for me," Hosley, the Giants' third-round pick in this year's NFL Draft, said on a conference call with reporters this afternoon when asked why he left Virginia Tech a year early. "I wanted a challenge and it was more of a challenge in the NFL."
Hosley will get that challenge at the next level. At 5-10, 178 pounds, he's an undersized cornerback who will have to stay aggressive to cover NFL receivers - though not too aggressive because we know how the league discourages physical play from corners after 5 yards.
That doesn't mean you can't get after a receiver, as the Bengals' Adam Jones and others have proven. Reese compared Hosley to a young Jones.
"Pacman Jones is a tremendous player, minus the off-field stuff," Hosley said. "But he’s a tremendous player. When you watch him on film he’s very sound in his technique. He’s aggressive, a smaller guy like me. I kind of favor that. I think that’s a good comparison. I like to compare myself to Asante Samuel, Pacman, Brandon Flowers. But I think that’s a very good comparison."
Speaking of off-field stuff, Hosley dropped to the third round because he failed a drug test at the Scouting Combine.
"I definitely regret it. But it’s something that’s in the past and behind me," said Hosley, who did not provide specifics. "I’m working toward bettering myself and not letting something like this happen again ever. They trusted me and I’m thankful for that and I want to make this a worthy decision."
Of his drop, he said, "I knew there was going to be a fall. I didn’t know exactly where. I accepted, with the mistake I made, I accepted that. I was just looking forward to really anyone giving me a call and giving me a chance, an opportunity to be a part of their program. And I was very happy and excited with the New York Giants giving me that call."
Hosley had nine interceptions as a sophomore but only three as a junior. Tom Coughlin said part of the reason for the drop-off was teams' not throwing his way.
“That’s a very accurate answer," Hosley said. "In 2010, I was coming in and I had a lot to prove. Just a player out there,a young guy who was excited to be in college and out there making plays. I feel like in 2011 there was a little drop off, teams kind of shied away from me a little bit.
"I felt like I was productive more and growing up as a player and a person in 2011. I don’t feel like there was a big drop off in productivity but obviously in the interception category it wasn;t there as far as the success I had in 2010 but I feel like I got better overall in 2011.”
Asked if that's what he meant when he said college football was getting too easy for him, Hosley replied, “I feel like in the NFL you have to earn their respect. I’m going to be a guy coming in and I don’t have their respect yet. I have to go out there and earn it. It’s one of those things when you get to the NFL they’re not going to shy away from you, they’re going to come at you. You have to be ready for it and I’m up for the challenge.”
And the challenge of proving himself as a gunner and on kick coverage?
“Man, I'm coming from a special teams guru in Frank Beamer so it’s something that I love to do and it’s actually something I'm looking forward to doing," he said. "Just doing my part in the organization.”
Jerry Reese described Jayron Hosley as "athletically arrogant," a compliment to the way he plays aggressively and confidently on the field.
Yeah, well, that swagger extends off the field as well.
"Truthfully, I felt like the college game was getting a little too easy for me," Hosley, the Giants' third-round pick in this year's NFL Draft, said on a conference call with reporters this afternoon when asked why he left Virginia Tech a year early. "I wanted a challenge and it was more of a challenge in the NFL."
Hosley will get that challenge at the next level. At 5-10, 178 pounds, he's an undersized cornerback who will have to stay aggressive to cover NFL receivers - though not too aggressive because we know how the league discourages physical play from corners after 5 yards.
That doesn't mean you can't get after a receiver, as the Bengals' Adam Jones and others have proven. Reese compared Hosley to a young Jones.
"Pacman Jones is a tremendous player, minus the off-field stuff," Hosley said. "But he’s a tremendous player. When you watch him on film he’s very sound in his technique. He’s aggressive, a smaller guy like me. I kind of favor that. I think that’s a good comparison. I like to compare myself to Asante Samuel, Pacman, Brandon Flowers. But I think that’s a very good comparison."
Speaking of off-field stuff, Hosley dropped to the third round because he failed a drug test at the Scouting Combine.
"I definitely regret it. But it’s something that’s in the past and behind me," said Hosley, who did not provide specifics. "I’m working toward bettering myself and not letting something like this happen again ever. They trusted me and I’m thankful for that and I want to make this a worthy decision."
Of his drop, he said, "I knew there was going to be a fall. I didn’t know exactly where. I accepted, with the mistake I made, I accepted that. I was just looking forward to really anyone giving me a call and giving me a chance, an opportunity to be a part of their program. And I was very happy and excited with the New York Giants giving me that call."
Hosley had nine interceptions as a sophomore but only three as a junior. Tom Coughlin said part of the reason for the drop-off was teams' not throwing his way.
“That’s a very accurate answer," Hosley said. "In 2010, I was coming in and I had a lot to prove. Just a player out there,a young guy who was excited to be in college and out there making plays. I feel like in 2011 there was a little drop off, teams kind of shied away from me a little bit.
"I felt like I was productive more and growing up as a player and a person in 2011. I don’t feel like there was a big drop off in productivity but obviously in the interception category it wasn;t there as far as the success I had in 2010 but I feel like I got better overall in 2011.”
Asked if that's what he meant when he said college football was getting too easy for him, Hosley replied, “I feel like in the NFL you have to earn their respect. I’m going to be a guy coming in and I don’t have their respect yet. I have to go out there and earn it. It’s one of those things when you get to the NFL they’re not going to shy away from you, they’re going to come at you. You have to be ready for it and I’m up for the challenge.”
And the challenge of proving himself as a gunner and on kick coverage?
“Man, I'm coming from a special teams guru in Frank Beamer so it’s something that I love to do and it’s actually something I'm looking forward to doing," he said. "Just doing my part in the organization.”
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