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25 October - Pete's 2010 Giants Mock
Here is my current thoughts on a mock draft for 2010 - with a little explanation
Background - I expect a lot of underclassmen to declare for the draft, we have had around 50 each of the last few years. This will signigicantly impact where seniors end up. I have also assumed there is no new CBA in place for 2010.
"Even if the NFL opts to keep the status quo there will probably be a record number of underclassmen coming out this year. Not only do players want to beat the rookie wage scale that will likely be in place by 2011 but the injury factor has never loomed so large after what has happened to guys like Sam Bradford and Jermaine Gresham. However, the mere possibility of really striking it rich and basically being able to name your price could prove awfully enticing and agents will certainly be hammering that scenario home in their recruiting conversations this fall. In other words get ready to see a flood of youngsters unlike anything the NFL Draft has ever seen in January." - Scott Wright - Draftcountdown
With no new CBA, I expect our free agents (Carr, Robbins, Clark) and assuming we are among the top 8 playoff teams, we will have restrictions to sign free agents. Carr is the only one of these guys the Giants will want back, it will come down to price.
as far as team needs, we are well established at most positions. I do think we will be looking to upgrade our secondary depth, particularly at safety as well as a blocking TE (if possible), but the biggest area to upgrade is at LB, particularly an ILB to groom and Pierc e's replacement as well as another fast athletic guy at WLB who can work in with Boley (simply our schemes require the WLB to be fast and athletic, without that our defense has vulnerabilities).
As far as strategy goes, we will continue with the best player available, preferably at positions of need.
My Mock Draft
1. OLB Sean Weatherspoon Missouri (6-2, 245, 4.60)
"An active playmaker who has a knack for being around the action." - Scott Wright - Draftcountdown
Weatherspoon is a fast athletic playmaker at WLB in the mould of Derrick Brooks. Weatherspooon has been extremely productive (2007-09: 34 games, 332 tackles, 34 TFL, 9.5 sacks, 16 PBU, 3 Int)
Boley has shown how speed and athleticism at WLB transforms our defense, but he hasn't been able to stay healthy. Weatherspoon gives depth behind Boley and competition for Boley to perform. We could see both Boley and Weatherspoon on passing downs.
2. ILB Brandon Spikes, Florida (6-3, 258, 4.75)
"Leader with great intangibles who could project inside or outside." - Scott Wright - Draftcountdown
Spikes is the instinctive, physical MLB to QB our defense. Spikes has been extremely productive (2007-09: 32 Games, 256 tackles, 29.5 TFL, 6.5 sacks, 12 PBU, 4 Int)
Either way Clark will be gone and decisions need to be made in the near future about Pierce. Even if Pierce sticks for another year, Spikes could force his way into the mix at SLB. This could also allow Sintim to be used a bit more as a Rush DE.
Spikes should not be here, but the same could be said of Sintim, Melualuga etc last year. The bottom line is that there is too much talent for the first round (this will require Reese to trade up); the LB group is once again very deep and pass rushing OLBs will (right or wrong) be the priority. Regardless if Spikes is available here, he is too good to pass up.
3. S Nate Allen, South Florida (6-2, 206, 4.50)
"Athletic centerfielder with outstanding range and terrific instincts." - Scott Wright - Draftcountdown
Allen is a very good safety prospect in both the pass and run game; he isn't flashy and this is a deep class, but this guy is exactly the type of guy we need.
4. CB Myron Lewis, Vanderbilt (6-2, 205, 4.50)
CB is not a huge need, but the Giants will always look to improve depth, particularly a physical guy like Lewis who is a good fit for our system.
This is a numbers game, Lewis should go earlier talent-wise, but there are a ton of good corners and safeties this year
5. TE Michael Hoomanawanui, Illinois (6-5, 270, 4.80)
"he will open holes and play a critical role for whatever team selects him." - Scott Wright - Draftcountdown
An outstanding blocker and solid reciever, Hoomanwanui is an ideal complement to Boss and Beckum (both of whom are more receiving TEs).
This will pay big diviends in the running game, with more big play potential as well downfield in the passing game.
6. DT Dan Williams, Tennessee (6-3, 327, 5.20)
Williams is lost in the wash a little (in a very deep DT class), but he is strong and disruptive. Williams has been very productive
(2007-09: 33 Games, 123 tackles, 17 TFL, 3.5 sacks, 17 QBH)
With Robbins (and possibly Bernard) likely gone, the Giants need more talent inside. Williams adds a good young DT to add to the rotation with Canty, Alford and Cofield
7. QB John Skelton, Fordham (6-5, 258, 4.90)
If Carr leaves in free agency, then we ideally need another QB. Fordam has decent ability and developmental potential
Possible Roster
- With this mock draft in mind, my 2010 depth chart would be something like:
QB - Manning, Bhomar, Skelton
WR - Smith, Manningham, Nicks, Hixon, Barden, Moss/Hagan
TE - Boss, Hoomanawanui, Beckum/Johnson
RB - Jacobs, Bradshaw, Ware, Brown
FB - Hedgecock
OT - Diehl, McKenzie, Beatty
OG - Snee, Seubert, Whimper, Boothe
OC - O'Hara, Koets
DE - Tuck, Umenyiora, Kiwanuka, Tollefsen
DT - Canty, Alford, Cofield, Williams/Bernard
SLB - Sintim, Kehl/Wilkinson, DeOssie (LS)
MLB - Pierce, Spikes, Goff/Blackburn
WLB - Boley, Weatherspoon
CB - Webster, Ross, Thomas, Lewis, B Johnson/Dockery
SS - M Johnson, Rouse/Brown
FS - Phillips, Allen
K - Tynes
P - Feagles/Free Agent
Background - I expect a lot of underclassmen to declare for the draft, we have had around 50 each of the last few years. This will signigicantly impact where seniors end up. I have also assumed there is no new CBA in place for 2010.
"Even if the NFL opts to keep the status quo there will probably be a record number of underclassmen coming out this year. Not only do players want to beat the rookie wage scale that will likely be in place by 2011 but the injury factor has never loomed so large after what has happened to guys like Sam Bradford and Jermaine Gresham. However, the mere possibility of really striking it rich and basically being able to name your price could prove awfully enticing and agents will certainly be hammering that scenario home in their recruiting conversations this fall. In other words get ready to see a flood of youngsters unlike anything the NFL Draft has ever seen in January." - Scott Wright - Draftcountdown
With no new CBA, I expect our free agents (Carr, Robbins, Clark) and assuming we are among the top 8 playoff teams, we will have restrictions to sign free agents. Carr is the only one of these guys the Giants will want back, it will come down to price.
as far as team needs, we are well established at most positions. I do think we will be looking to upgrade our secondary depth, particularly at safety as well as a blocking TE (if possible), but the biggest area to upgrade is at LB, particularly an ILB to groom and Pierc e's replacement as well as another fast athletic guy at WLB who can work in with Boley (simply our schemes require the WLB to be fast and athletic, without that our defense has vulnerabilities).
As far as strategy goes, we will continue with the best player available, preferably at positions of need.
My Mock Draft
1. OLB Sean Weatherspoon Missouri (6-2, 245, 4.60)
"An active playmaker who has a knack for being around the action." - Scott Wright - Draftcountdown
Weatherspoon is a fast athletic playmaker at WLB in the mould of Derrick Brooks. Weatherspooon has been extremely productive (2007-09: 34 games, 332 tackles, 34 TFL, 9.5 sacks, 16 PBU, 3 Int)
Boley has shown how speed and athleticism at WLB transforms our defense, but he hasn't been able to stay healthy. Weatherspoon gives depth behind Boley and competition for Boley to perform. We could see both Boley and Weatherspoon on passing downs.
2. ILB Brandon Spikes, Florida (6-3, 258, 4.75)
"Leader with great intangibles who could project inside or outside." - Scott Wright - Draftcountdown
Spikes is the instinctive, physical MLB to QB our defense. Spikes has been extremely productive (2007-09: 32 Games, 256 tackles, 29.5 TFL, 6.5 sacks, 12 PBU, 4 Int)
Either way Clark will be gone and decisions need to be made in the near future about Pierce. Even if Pierce sticks for another year, Spikes could force his way into the mix at SLB. This could also allow Sintim to be used a bit more as a Rush DE.
Spikes should not be here, but the same could be said of Sintim, Melualuga etc last year. The bottom line is that there is too much talent for the first round (this will require Reese to trade up); the LB group is once again very deep and pass rushing OLBs will (right or wrong) be the priority. Regardless if Spikes is available here, he is too good to pass up.
3. S Nate Allen, South Florida (6-2, 206, 4.50)
"Athletic centerfielder with outstanding range and terrific instincts." - Scott Wright - Draftcountdown
Allen is a very good safety prospect in both the pass and run game; he isn't flashy and this is a deep class, but this guy is exactly the type of guy we need.
4. CB Myron Lewis, Vanderbilt (6-2, 205, 4.50)
CB is not a huge need, but the Giants will always look to improve depth, particularly a physical guy like Lewis who is a good fit for our system.
This is a numbers game, Lewis should go earlier talent-wise, but there are a ton of good corners and safeties this year
5. TE Michael Hoomanawanui, Illinois (6-5, 270, 4.80)
"he will open holes and play a critical role for whatever team selects him." - Scott Wright - Draftcountdown
An outstanding blocker and solid reciever, Hoomanwanui is an ideal complement to Boss and Beckum (both of whom are more receiving TEs).
This will pay big diviends in the running game, with more big play potential as well downfield in the passing game.
6. DT Dan Williams, Tennessee (6-3, 327, 5.20)
Williams is lost in the wash a little (in a very deep DT class), but he is strong and disruptive. Williams has been very productive
(2007-09: 33 Games, 123 tackles, 17 TFL, 3.5 sacks, 17 QBH)
With Robbins (and possibly Bernard) likely gone, the Giants need more talent inside. Williams adds a good young DT to add to the rotation with Canty, Alford and Cofield
7. QB John Skelton, Fordham (6-5, 258, 4.90)
If Carr leaves in free agency, then we ideally need another QB. Fordam has decent ability and developmental potential
Possible Roster
- With this mock draft in mind, my 2010 depth chart would be something like:
QB - Manning, Bhomar, Skelton
WR - Smith, Manningham, Nicks, Hixon, Barden, Moss/Hagan
TE - Boss, Hoomanawanui, Beckum/Johnson
RB - Jacobs, Bradshaw, Ware, Brown
FB - Hedgecock
OT - Diehl, McKenzie, Beatty
OG - Snee, Seubert, Whimper, Boothe
OC - O'Hara, Koets
DE - Tuck, Umenyiora, Kiwanuka, Tollefsen
DT - Canty, Alford, Cofield, Williams/Bernard
SLB - Sintim, Kehl/Wilkinson, DeOssie (LS)
MLB - Pierce, Spikes, Goff/Blackburn
WLB - Boley, Weatherspoon
CB - Webster, Ross, Thomas, Lewis, B Johnson/Dockery
SS - M Johnson, Rouse/Brown
FS - Phillips, Allen
K - Tynes
P - Feagles/Free Agent
Last edited by Big_Pete on Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:18 am; edited 16 times in total
Big_Pete- Giants Legend
Re: 25 October - Pete's 2010 Giants Mock
A trade up example in the second round could include some combination of players such as Moss/Wilkinson/Whimper/Bernard (perhaps with a late round pick to Rams in order to flip flop picks in the 2nd round.
The Rams need alot of help, and would get guys that Spags knows well from a very good team.
The Rams need alot of help, and would get guys that Spags knows well from a very good team.
Big_Pete- Giants Legend
Re: 25 October - Pete's 2010 Giants Mock
I may need to reasses things depending on how the season goes
I had assumed the Giants would pick late (which is still possible)
At the moment we are still good, but it will come down to performance over the back half of the season.
I am starting to go back to thinking DT as our biggest need.
I had assumed the Giants would pick late (which is still possible)
At the moment we are still good, but it will come down to performance over the back half of the season.
I am starting to go back to thinking DT as our biggest need.
Big_Pete- Giants Legend
Re: 25 October - Pete's 2010 Giants Mock
As always Pete, Nice job on your mock.
I'm hoping that when Canty starts playing again that it helps fill the void at DT. Alford being back next season should add us some value also.
That being said, I'm not against drafting a DT in high rounds.
I think the Giants need to start looking at Safety as a high priority. Our starters now just aren't getting the job done and Phillips future is unfortunately in doubt.
I'm hoping that when Canty starts playing again that it helps fill the void at DT. Alford being back next season should add us some value also.
That being said, I'm not against drafting a DT in high rounds.
I think the Giants need to start looking at Safety as a high priority. Our starters now just aren't getting the job done and Phillips future is unfortunately in doubt.
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Re: 25 October - Pete's 2010 Giants Mock
I don't think Safety will be that bad.
Firstly I think we will see Ross or Thomas move to FS soon.
DT is an issue, Robbins is a FA and almost certainly won't be back, Bernard has been average and if there is a new CBA (and it looks like the NFLPA is making that a priority) then Cofield is also a FA and is solid on running downs. Which means we have Canty and Alford at DT.
What we really need is a strong anchor the middle; someone like Arthur Jones is ideal.
An argument could be made that other than secondary help, we have few major needs
Firstly I think we will see Ross or Thomas move to FS soon.
DT is an issue, Robbins is a FA and almost certainly won't be back, Bernard has been average and if there is a new CBA (and it looks like the NFLPA is making that a priority) then Cofield is also a FA and is solid on running downs. Which means we have Canty and Alford at DT.
What we really need is a strong anchor the middle; someone like Arthur Jones is ideal.
An argument could be made that other than secondary help, we have few major needs
Big_Pete- Giants Legend
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